Re: Westbahn – New train service between Vienna and Salzburg
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manu
Saturday, 28 April 2012 12:47
I don't think there is absolutely nothing to complain about the westbahn... it's crowded, messy, the POS for credit cards never work, and it's a first-come-first serve for the seats (absolutely not recommended if you plan to travel with many friends or big family) but hey, for a ticket which is half or 1/3 the price of a normal ticket... good enough for poor people like me.
If you want a better service as always you just pay some more

[quote="manu"]
I don't think there is absolutely nothing to complain about the westbahn... it's crowded, messy, the POS for credit cards never work, and it's a first-come-first serve for the seats (absolutely not recommended if you plan to travel with many friends or big family) but hey, for a ticket which is half or 1/3 the price of a normal ticket... good enough for poor people like me.
If you want a better service as always you just pay some more

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Re: Westbahn – New train service between Vienna and Salzburg
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papa-simes
Monday, 09 January 2012 13:14
Forgive me if this has been mentioned before but it has just occurred to me: uniforms of Westbahn staff and Inernational Rescue. Some parallels?
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Forgive me if this has been mentioned before but it has just occurred to me: uniforms of Westbahn staff and Inernational Rescue. Some parallels?
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Re: Westbahn – New train service between Vienna and Salzburg
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higgi
Tuesday, 13 December 2011 12:21
The new train service has a smoking section apparently. If that's of interest to anyone...

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The new train service has a smoking section apparently. If that's of interest to anyone...

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Re: Westbahn – New train service between Vienna and Salzburg
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morgenhund
Tuesday, 13 December 2011 09:42
Westbahn are, I happen to know, currently working on agreements with the Verkehrsverbunde but these will take time. St Pölten-Wien commuters do get special rates on season tickets through, and VOR for example already includes Westbahn services in its timetabling, indicating that they clearly intend to co-operate.
It would be illusional to expect that promotional fares (i.e. the introductory EUR 7 fare) are transferrable - and not possible when you consider how ticketing prices are calculated and to whom various amounts go. The introductory fare is nothing more than a loss leader.
One of the main arguments being made about the market liberalisation is that the incumbent provider has to effectively subsidise the loss-making local routes while new entrants are free to cherry-pick their routes and stick to the profitable ones - the Westbahn is definitely the most profitable route, while a lot of the local routes are far from profitable, but are maintained by the ÖBB and Postbus services.
[quote="morgenhund"]
Westbahn are, I happen to know, currently working on agreements with the Verkehrsverbunde but these will take time. St Pölten-Wien commuters do get special rates on season tickets through, and VOR for example already includes Westbahn services in its timetabling, indicating that they clearly intend to co-operate.
It would be illusional to expect that promotional fares (i.e. the introductory EUR 7 fare) are transferrable - and not possible when you consider how ticketing prices are calculated and to whom various amounts go. The introductory fare is nothing more than a loss leader.
One of the main arguments being made about the market liberalisation is that the incumbent provider has to effectively subsidise the loss-making local routes while new entrants are free to cherry-pick their routes and stick to the profitable ones - the Westbahn is definitely the most profitable route, while a lot of the local routes are far from profitable, but are maintained by the ÖBB and Postbus services.
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Re: Westbahn – New train service between Vienna and Salzburg
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kerstin
Tuesday, 13 December 2011 09:09
With regards to accepting tickets: I was hoping that they (ÖBB and West) accept each others ticket. In case one service is delayed for whatever reason the passengers can take the next available train. But this works only if there is something like a "Verkehrsverbund" in the area around Vienna. In Germany the Metronom accepts "Nahverkehrstickets"
http://www.der-metronom.de/tickets/alle ... ahrkarten/
In Lower Saxony you can take any train with the Nahverkehrsticket between Bremen and Hamburg for example
I wonder if this will ever happen in Austria, They could for example make the distance between St Pölten and Vienna a Nahverkehrsarea for commuters so that the commuters can buy their tickets and use any train. This would be progress for the consumer.
[quote="kerstin"]
With regards to accepting tickets: I was hoping that they (ÖBB and West) accept each others ticket. In case one service is delayed for whatever reason the passengers can take the next available train. But this works only if there is something like a "Verkehrsverbund" in the area around Vienna. In Germany the Metronom accepts "Nahverkehrstickets"
http://www.der-metronom.de/tickets/alle ... ahrkarten/
In Lower Saxony you can take any train with the Nahverkehrsticket between Bremen and Hamburg for example
I wonder if this will ever happen in Austria, They could for example make the distance between St Pölten and Vienna a Nahverkehrsarea for commuters so that the commuters can buy their tickets and use any train. This would be progress for the consumer.
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